Ufos    in   Clouds!!!

 

Testimony: observation in Picardy!!!
05.07.2003 19:55 ¦ 299 ¦ TOS

 

Received on 01/07/2003 (note of ipani: sorry for the delay of  publication, but at the moment I have some problems with my computer)

Date and  hour: in 22/06/03 1 o’clock
Place: Crépy in  Valois/Oise.(France)

Description:

At 1 a.m  while the sky was quiet, without rain, nor thunderstorm, I saw flashes of lightning glittering through my window. They were regular, in  1 minute of interval between every flash of lighting.
I wondered what it was but I did not  pay more attention because I was exhausted and I had been trying to sleep in my bed for 1 hour.
But, when I saw the news in the morning where unusual flashes of lighting would have been seen in England, I said to myself that I could have seen the same thing....

 

Glapa joseph wrote on 09.07.2003 towards 07:39:05:

An enormous cumulus on June  3rd, 2000!!!

Certainly, these flashes of lighting exist but some of them  are strange . On Saturday, June 3rd, 2000 at about 7:30 pm a big thunderstorm arrived over Douai  and progressed in the direction of Denain ( Northern France). Terrible flashes of lighting between Douai and Denain , a big ball of plasma observed at Pecquencourt over a pylone , the TV which trips 2 à3 times in kms around... And no droplet!!! The thunderstorm faints as high as Denain... I observed it from Abscon and my bitch was as hypnotized by the enormous black cloud... The whole in a quarter of an hour... The next day a witness observes in England an enormous  ufo... (Internet).

Joseph Glapa's note:Thanks to Ipani for this observation in Picardy and for my answer … You have his  address in my links..

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A squadron of  UFOS  in clouds in 1941!!!

Curious observation of clouds.

 

THE NATURE_revue of the sciences and their applications. _ No. 3152 - in  January, 1948..

 

 


In its number 3113 of ' October 1st, 1947, The Nature published an article on the artificial rain, illustrated with a picture showing the effect of a release of dry ice on a sea of clouds. The big cumuluses spread in carpet gave birth to a real mushroom of explosion amounting to several thousands of metres in height.

 

This sight reminded me an almost identical observation, where the dry ice is not in question.

 

It was in Le Mans at the beginning of the summer, 1941, during the German occupation. Luftwaffe had occupied the former aerodrome of Le Mans and the Circuit of the Sarthe and maintained several groups of Messer-schmidt 109, twin-engined fighter planes monofuselage, not very fast, but excessively handy.

(Note by Joseph Glapa: the reader didn’t know they were secret planes Messerschmitt 262!!!)

 

From his part, the English R.A.F. came very frequently with isolated planes, at very high height, release isolated bombs on the ground, obviously on principle, because the damages were useless, as the inhabitants of Le Mans verified it, by circulating permanently on the border of the ground lined with factories.

But the German pilots were permanently on the alert  and several times, I  had  seen,from a near place, groups of Messerschmidt in broad daylight fly around the ground or scatter hurriedly , and all the Frenchmen compared the spectacle to that of wasps springing from their subterranean nest when we kicked near the entrance. Half an hour later, planes returned discreetly and everything calmed down. Naturally the English plane had disappeared.

It is this scenario which occurred in the daytime of the observation which I indicate.

It was a magnificent day, one Sunday as much as I remember, and at about 1 pm, the very clear sky contained only some big cumuluses on base towards 300 m  and summit probably towards 1000 m, clouds moreover very distant from each  others. ‘ At about 1 pm, all the city heard the noise of planes flying away hurriedly, and I could see that the cause of the alert seemed  to be in one of the big cumuluses which, at this moment, flew very slowly over the airfield. We could see Messerschmidt, - as panic-stricken around the cloud,  prick inside at top speed, rerelease from it in candle , and  begin again their operation, really very beautiful spectacle, but which  was to be terribly dangerous for the pilots.

Was it about an exercise ordered by the command of the camp or the alert? I have never known it . But it was curious to observe the  terrified  soldiers and  officers quartered in barracks in city, who followed the spectacle out of the windows of houses.

I could then observe that the cloud,  which, in its arrival, seemed to have its base towards 300 m , to peak towards 1000m,  and to  deviate from the aerodrome  and go away from the city ; it had taken the shape of a very high pyramid with outlines perfectly net and splendidly enlightened by the sun; its very pointed point  had to be probably towards 3000m, according  to its  visible height on the horizon and its likely place on the ground.

 

My point of observation was 4 km of the airfield and the cloud was approximately 5 km when I observed its summit.

Over the moment, I could not understand the phenomenon, but the article of The Nature seems to give the solution.

It is likely that the passage repeated by planes in the cumulus. activated a similar action to some dry ice. I have never known if it had been  raining under the cloud because  the base was hidden from me by one of the crests surrounding the city as  it went away.

The phenomenon had struck me because six years later I remember it well. It is true that I am there to wonder again why  the Messerschmidt were engaged in this arena which  always seemed to us abnormal,

 

  Joseph Glapa's note:the witness is right to underline the strangeness of his observation .But could he think even a single moment, in 1941, that it was about something extraordinary? I am convinced,  in the light of all that we know today, that People from Outer Space ,in their Ufos hidden in some big cumuluses, had come in number this day there, to test the revolutionary plane which was presented to the public in 1942 only: Messerschmitt 262!!! The  first squadron was in Le Mans since 1941.

 

 

 Messerschmitt 262 was the first operational jet plane of the world....( Bi.jet engine!!)                                            

 

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Balloons in distress in 1896!!!

Scientific committee of the Aéro-Club of June, 1907.

( Cosmos-n°11736-6-20juillet 1907 p79)

 

In 1896,  M.W. Monniot had a balloon ascent over Boulogne-sur - Mer (northern France) on the occasion of the inauguration of the monument Lhoste and Mangot. The balloon had already been flying for a long time  when it abruptly  rose with speed while going to a  turbulent cloud as  sucked up by a powerful force.

The balloon was hardly plunged into a thick cloud when a crackling comparable to that of a handle of salt  thrown into the fire was listened with intensity. The pilot, a very clever pilot, approached ropes to recognize the nature of these noises, but deeply moved back,  by noticing that sparks sprang as soon as he approached fingers . The energy of the phenomenon increased as the sphere rose; soon the pilot, the hands wrinkled as when we hold the handles of an electric machine, had to give up making the operations.

It is possible that these brilliant, visible demonstrations even in broad daylight (it was 4 am in the afternoon) showed no danger. We had however the right to be afraid of the inflammation of the explosive mixture produced by the gas going out to of the appendix. The aeronauts considered carefully to leave this impressive environment and made a descent maybe a little bit lively:it was  easy to understand them.

A phenomenon of the same kind has just reproduced in a way even much more striking, because it took place during an ascent at night executed in the park of the hills of Saint-Cloud, on June 23rd, by Mr Levée. Among the air exploits of the members of the Aéro-Club, the journeys of Mr Levée make particularly sensation by their number, their duration and their length. As a result the observations which we are going to summarize are calmly made and with precision and cannot be revoked in doubt. They put in evidence of  facts that it is urgent to analyze; so, we shall be able  , in a precise way,to notice that a not metallic balloon can, in certain cases, be electric in a certainly dangerous way; it is likely that. In a similar situation, a balloon dressed in a coat of aluminium would not have got out of it in so harmless a way.

The balloon,with its trail-ropes well spread, was, at 11:55 p.m, at 1 300 metres in height in the neighborhood of Mons, when two successive showers beat down on the material and the apparatus. It was necessary to throw, at some moments, 75 kilograms of ballast to maintain the balance compromised by the excess load of water, At the same time, the wind, rather lively until then, fell with a speed not yet noticed in the previous fifty two ascents of the pilot.

Some minutes later, Mr Levée, wishing to order the bags of ballast, could see, in his great surprise, very lively sparks  spring from one of them  as soon as he approached the hand . As if this appearance had been a signal, all the ropes started  crackling , while the material, including the  unwound and wet trail-rope, became brilliant.

The sphere, completely phosphorescent, looked like a vast Chinese lantern; the spectacle was really  charming . Mr Levée and his two companions would have appreciated as it is advisable, if they had not believed, as well as Mr Monniot, in 1896, the neighborhood of these flames compromising for the gas tank in which their existence was attached.

However, after some minutes of fear, no explosion occurring, the aeronauts felt reassured .

 

The trail- rope was attached to the nacelle by a cabillot which gave place to strange lights: a sheaf of brilliant lines went out of it and these brilliant lines bent as fountains make it.

As we put the hand along ropes at a distance of some centimeters, big flames dashed immediately. But they gave no physical sensation; no shock, however weak it is, was  felt during the fifteen minutes when lasted the  observations repeated a big number of times.

The phenomena took two or three minutes to reach their maximum; they disappeared by weakening gradually in an identical lapse of time.

What was curious there, it is that the balloon was plunged into no cloud; it was under the influence of no cloudy layer of a certain extent, the sky was strewed with numerous cumuluses letting perceive in their intervals thousands of visible stars for an observer placed at 1 500 metres .....

W  de FONVIELLE,

 

Thick clouds and gods in the Bible!!!

Joseph Glapa's note:here is a text from Filer'sFiles-n°37-- September 10th, 2003. Thanks to George Filer. You have his address in my links....

 

TEN COMMANDMENTS -- I suggest UFOs have played an important role in the history of the world. Reverend Barry Downing in his book "The Bible and Flying Saucers" declares the messengers are here and that the Pillar of Fire and of Cloud are ancient descriptions of UFOs. He and other experts feel that when the Hebrew Scriptures are translated correctly, they describe cylinder or saucer shaped craft with a dome, that carry God's messengers, angels, or the Lord. The word most often used in the Old Testament for cloud is 'anan,' a word that describes anything that flies except birds and insects. The clouds or 'anan' are described as having attributes not normally associated with fluffy clouds such as flying towards the observer and landing, glowing at night, and carrying passengers. Reverend Downing states, "During the exit of Israelites from Egypt they are guarded by a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night.' (Exodus 14:24), Sometimes the pillar of cloud is referred to as the "Lord" (Exodus 13:21; 14:24); other references seem to be "the angel of God" (Exodus 14:20), "the glory and brightness of the Lord appeared in the cloud" (Exodus 16:10), "I am coming to you in a thick cloud" (Exodus 19-9), "Mt Sinai was wrapped in smoke because the Lord descended upon it in a fire" (Exodus 19:18). Obviously, normal clouds cannot carry passengers, so we can assume the Bible is referring to some type of flying craft that hovers in one spot for months. The descriptions often describe coming in the clouds. The power of the Lord met Moses on the top of Mount Sinai and gave Christians and Jews the Laws of God, known as the Ten Commandments. They begin, Because "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage," "You shall have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:2,3). These commandments provide a standard of behavior brought in a UFO by the Lord who came from Heaven, so that Earth can fulfill God's plan.

 

 

 

Abscon: in September 19th, 2003 (birthday of Daphnée: 4 years!!!!)

 

 

 

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